A new premium interview show
We know what
happened.
But what did it mean?
Each week, therapist and bestselling author Jason VanRuler sits down with a remarkable life and asks the question nobody got around to asking. Their story helps you understand yours.
Every episode
Story
Underneath
Notice
Choice
One guest. One conversation. 30-45 minutes.
For the guest
You've told the highlight reel a hundred times.
Nobody has asked what it cost you.
Every interview asks what you did. Almost none ask what it did to you. This show exists for the person who is more than the thing they're known for.
No gotchas. No ambush. No manufactured vulnerability. Guests decide which parts of their story are theirs to share. The only agenda is curiosity.
And the guest list starts with a network, not a cold email: years of real relationships with actors, artists, authors, athletes, and business leaders.
The host
Fifteen years of listening for the thing underneath the thing.
Jason VanRuler is a therapist, bestselling author, and speaker who has spent fifteen years in therapy rooms, boardrooms, and conversations with high performers, learning that what happened rarely tells us what it meant.
He has spoken on hundreds of stages, from Chick-fil-A to TEDx, and his work has been featured in Forbes, The New York Times, SiriusXM, Fox News, and CBS.
He brings warmth, humor, and uncommon curiosity to every conversation. This is not therapy. Nobody gets diagnosed or fixed. His job is simpler: listen closely enough to ask the question that opens another door.
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Bestselling books with Zondervan
250k+
Audience built on real conversation
TEDx
Speaker
PATHS
Communication Model creator
Find your type
On the record
Six weeks with Candace Cameron Bure.
Jason co-hosted a six week series on The Candace Cameron Bure Podcast, working through the five communication types with Candace and answering listener questions from real marriages, friendships, and families.
The conversation
Four moves, one descent
Story
What happened?
The story people already know, or think they know. The career. The win. The loss.
Underneath
What did it mean?
The people, experiences, beliefs, and moments that gave the story its meaning.
Notice
What's the pattern?
The thread connecting the stories. Not a diagnosis. Not therapy. An observation.
Choice
What's shaping you now?
Understanding our story matters most when it changes how we live the next part of it.
The questions nobody has gotten around to asking:
- Who shaped you?
- What were you trying to prove?
- What did success fix, and what didn't it fix?
- What have you had to unlearn?
- What did you believe then that you don't believe anymore?
- What's shaping you now?
And occasionally, when a thread is running underneath the conversation, Jason will ask:
"Can I tell you something I'm noticing?"
That's usually where the interesting conversation begins.
Built to travel
Filmed as a premium video conversation. Released everywhere.
The Question
The moment the conversation goes underneath.
What I'm Noticing
A pattern the guest may not have seen yet.
The Turn
The moment the guest describes what changed.
What Now?
The choice they're making about who they're becoming.
Short clips aren't extracted as an afterthought. They're built into the architecture of the show.
From the producers
CandyRock Entertainment
CandyRock Entertainment develops and produces projects and feature length films with an emphasis on family-friendly content. CandyRock Entertainment is a joint venture between award-winning actress, producer, and New York Times Best Selling Author Candace Cameron Bure and the full-service development and execution team behind Redrock Entertainment.
The bigger idea
It isn't a show about the past. It's about choice.
Our past explains things. Our patterns reveal things. But neither gets the final word.
What happened?
What did it mean?
What do you want to choose now?
If your story has more underneath it than the highlight reel shows, we'd love the conversation.
The chair is open.